CH3 - Completing the Circle

Alf and his Channel 3 jacket 1/16/02.



Interview and Photos by Jenifer Hanen
Photos from 11/23/01 at the Galaxy.

Channel 3Sometime in the general vicinity of 1994, my sister ran into a punk at Berkeley who tested her on what was REAL punk rock. She passed the test in one band flat by stating, "Channel 3". The kid was very impressed that a scholarly tall blonde with glasses could list off one of SoCal's most influential hardcore bands from the early 1980s. Ha! It is all my fault! Ha! When my sister was a wee lass of 6, she was treated to "Manzanar," "I've Got a Gun," and "Double Standard," among many others, coming out of my little phonograph at full blast. Well, as much as any little, plastic, cheap record player could blast out anything. The year was 1982, I was 14, Peer Records had CH3's "Fear of Life" poster in the window and I was transfixed.

My mom surfed and I roller skated. Purple and black roller skates, mind you. Thus, I went past Peer Records many times, staring at the window displays. Transfixed. Black, white and purple. A gun pointing in. "Fear of Life" LP. I went in and bothered the clerk behind the counter to play the record for me, and he did. I bought it, and that was history. In fall of 1982, I went to high school and met some nice punks with a car. I was set. Lots of concerts were in my present and future. An addiction to live music was born. A passion for punk was born.

Ch3's Kimm GardenerA few years have come and a few years have gone. I still love black and purple. And I still love turning CH3's "Manzanar" up REAL loud on the car stereo. Mom still surfs, and knows what is being released by what posters are in the window of Peer Records*, and I run a music ezine. Over the years, I have had the opportunity to run into Kimm Gardener (guitar, vocals) and Mike Magrann (vocals, lyrics, guitar) of Channel 3 and get the updates on what is going on musically in their lives. We set up a time to get together in Seal Beach this last November for drinks and appetizers a week or two before their show with the Adolescents at the Galaxy on 11/23/01. Mike and Kimm were kind enough to update me and in turn you, on CH3, life, the upcoming cd, and various other subjects. Of which some of those subjects started with what the band's current line up is, and how new bassist Anthony Thompson (ex-US Crush) is now playing with Channel 3.
Mike Magrann - " I don't know... we found him off the internet." (Beware: Mr. Magrann has a very dry and wry sense of humor)
MM - "We put in an ad in the Recycler - "Old school punk band - bass player wanted - influences Clash, Ramones, Channel 3."
MM - "Anthony writes back and says that he got his first CH3 record when he was ten."
Kimm Gardener - " We had people from Denver responding. You know it is trouble when people say they will move."

The conversation moves on to our choice of meeting up in Seal Beach for the interview.
KG - "No one thinks Seal Beach is the place to hang out. TSOL comes in here.
MM - "The Editor for the Sun (local SB paper) is Brian from JFA (another old school SoCal punk band) You should read the editorials, he actually writes about being in JFA.
KG - " Oh, oh. Will Seal Beach now be the new low profile punk place to hang out?"

Channel 3 released three LPs on Posh Boy in the early and mid-eighties, as well as several 7" singles, and an LP on Enigma. Since the departure of bassist, Jan Lansford for a well-lived life in Germany, CH3 played out once a year at Linda Jemison's Doll Hut Christmas Benefit's in the 1990s. With the turn of the 2000s, the band has had renewed energy to play a variety of shows and work on new songs for a soon to be released original cd. Mike Magrann has always been the band's lyricist and songwriter, when asked what one writes about now, he put the whole table into heaves of laughter with the following reply.
MM - "It is very different now when you are 40 years old. When you were young it was really easy to spout off about stuff you were insincere about. Now you spout off about back pain, the light on PCH that takes 4.5 minutes to change, who uses all the fucking toilet paper, getting your daughter up for school."

All jokes aside....

MM - " I am writing all the lyrics. We finished the first half of the new record as a demo and sent it to Jay in Germany. Giagantor, Jay's band, has already covered 2 of the songs. Musically we can do more of what we want (now). We are less limited, we can make the sounds we want. When you are older, the rage is less directed and is more diffused."

Does punk have to be about rage?
MM - "Not at all. It has to be about passion, but rage is the easiest to write about."
KG - "We are going to record more songs in December. We have a new booking agency and they are hot to go. We are playing San Diego (first weekend of December 2001, and they played San Francisco)."
MM - " The last time we played San Diego was with the Crowd after graduation (1984, grad from CSULB) [an off the record story proceeds]
KG - "That was when Jay was in the band."

Ch3's  Mike MagrannMore chat as to why I missed that show, as I was at the one the night before. This leads into stories about the Van. Now the Van is a fabled automobile. Not any van mind you. But THE VAN. I got my driver's license in April of 1984, and was immediately taught how to pump gas and check oil by Jan Lansford, and then spent the whole summer as the "Designated Driver." THE VAN had stories that dated pre-1984, fables that included many tours across the nation and back. Forget that bus in "Another State of Mind," but Channel 3's blue and white chevy saw many, many punk rock adventures, including seats being floated down the Colorado River one Memorial Day for a lack of other floatation devices....
KG - "Sense of humor has always been a key component to this band."
The guys believe that THE VAN is having a nice retirement in Mexico.

Now, it is 2002, and many books have been written on the subject of punk rock, on the subject of American Hardcore, on the subject of LA punk, but somehow CH3 always seems to fall through the cracks of these tomes, even though the band was more know at the time within and without the movement than any other bands with the exception of Bad Religion and Black Flag.
KG - "No one mentions us. We are right on the border. Drinking in Seal Beach and laughing."
MM - " I think we have one good record in us that we have wanted to make for a while. We purposefully kept a low profile. Just doing the Doll Hut Christmas Benefit shows for years. We are in a different position than a lot of other bands, we have careers and families, we don't want to do the tour bus."
KG - "The fact is that we never broke up, we just kept a low profile. We are grateful that people still want to see us, the kids."

Completing the circle. Given that many are now squawking about or plain fatigued by the insincere pop sensibilities or the strident political message of many "New School" punk bands, it is refreshing to have CH3 continue to keep playing to crowds of old fans and new kids. In recent months, I have seen the band get complaisant fifteen year olds all riled up and circling around the pit. Mike and Kimm have been best friends since early grade school in Cerritos, CA. Over a period of 20 years, Channel 3 as a band has always been the kernel of Kimm and Mike with a bassist and drummer. Now that the band is prepping a new cd and playing out with more frequency, we wanted to know if it was a completing of a circle for them.
KG - "To some extent we have had a lot of band members but it brings us back to the where we started."
MM - "After all this time we have never matched the first five song EP that was recorded in four hours."
MM - "We are going to franchise the band - four kids in the southwest, east, and midwest. Kimm and I will sit at a desk and fax them the set list."

Ch3's Alf SilvaWhat about "Manzanar"? Will the new cd have such a cutting edge political song on it? Or will the new songs be more personal?
MM - "It would be tough, as that was a political song that came from the personal. It was something in my family. You have to be young and naive to write that. You pull off a lot of shit when you have fresh knowledge. In college you want everyone to know."
Alf Slvia, has been the longest lasting drummer in Channel 3's history, he came on in 1993. Alf had remained fairly quiet through most of the interview, but when asked why he joined up with Mike and Kimm, he replied:
AS - "From the start, I was in it for the cocaine and the chicks and I am still waiting. I am hoping with the new record...."
MM - "The kids..."
AS - "I grew up on punk rock. I grew up with these guys. I am 36."
MM - "He was one of those kids at the backyard parties that we made carry the gear."

Ok, now comes the hard question, really, how many drummers has Channel 3 had?
MM - "Alf has been here longer than any of the drummers."
KG - "Alf is the 11th or 12th drummer. And there have been 7 bass players."

Is Anthony the 8th bass player?
They count on their fingers. No conclusion was reached, but the nachos, potato skins, and Guinesses were done. Thank you Gentlemen!

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Channel 3 1/16/02.

* Mom - last night at dinner - "Oh, does Bad Religion have a new album coming out?"
Me - "How did you know?"
Mom - "Oh, there is a poster in the window at Peer, it is orange and yellow, I saw it last week when I was parking my car to go surfing."
p.s. Don't ask Mom her opinion about Duane Peter's teeth, she thinks Epitaph should foot the bill for their repair....